May 18, 2020


In the season finale of Zero Proof Book Club, Shelley and Jackie dig into future plans, listening to the self, and moving on, all inspired by the healing work and writing in love warrior Glennon Doyle’s latest book, “Untamed.”

As part of their discussion about Dr. Bessel Van Der Kolk’s book, “The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma,” Shelley and Jackie talk through EMDR therapy, sex before and after getting sober, and how our bodies can carry bad experiences, even long after they’ve happened.

April 20, 2020


In review of Julie Buntin’s novel about two teenage girls and the year that killed one of them, Shelley and Jackie discuss pills, sober medical diagnoses, friendship, and the romanticism of “troubled young woman” throughout history and its negative effect on generations of girls.

April 6, 2020

Abandon Me

Melissa Febos’ book of memoirs leads Shelley and Jackie on a discussion of the changes and challenges of long-term sobriety and the way hunger shows up in our lives physically and emotionally. Jackie discusses her new therapy focused on recovering relational trauma and Shelley considers doing the 12 steps.

March 23, 2020

A Candid COVID-19 Convo

Jackie and Shelley pause the book club to talk about the COVID-19 crisis and how we’re both dealing with the experience.

March 9, 2020

A Piece of Cake

Shelley and Jackie discuss the 2005 memoir by Cupcake Brown, a survivor of child abuse, rape, gang violence, and much more. In recovery, Cupcake eventually became a lawyer at a prestigious firm and now shares her profound story of  recovery around the world.

February 24, 2020

We Are The Luckiest

Shelley and Jackie gush over Laura McKowen’s incredible ability to write about big emotions that can make you feel small and her new book “We Are The Luckiest.” Also covered: the truth about lying, finding what you love to do in sobriety, and making big life choices with a clear head.

February 10, 2020

Quit Like A Woman

Shelley and Jackie dissect the arguments of Holly Whitaker’s book “Quit Like A Woman” and discuss recovery accessibility, AA, sexism in alcohol advertising, “normal” drinkers, and the radical choice to quit drinking in a culture obsessed with alcohol.

Shelley and Jackie interview Jen Elizabeth, survivor, advocate, warrior, and author of the 2019 book "Shape of A Woman." Jen shares her words of wisdom on recovery, healing feminine and mother wounds, writing and publishing your own story, and approaching self care as you share your journey with others.

January 13, 2020

2019 Year in Review

As 2020 gets rolling, Shelley and Jackie share their favorite (and least favorite) Zero Proof Book Club reads of the previous year; discuss how their recovery evolved in 2019 and how they hope it grows in 2020; and introduce a new Zero Proof: Author Interview special series.

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